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I am glad Pakistan Govt isstarting to look after their people's interest. They should always try to look after the interest of common people, work for them to bring propsperity and good life and all the grieveances of people will turn to helping Govt. For this to happen everyone has to put country first and hold officials responsible for not letting the development work happen in Gwadar by causing delays on projects ranging from roads to water to gas to electricity. Prime Minister and CM of Balochistan should make this a pripority agenda so the people who want to invest at Gwadar can do it. Like I am eager to setup fish processing plants with latest technology for export purposes but without water and having to face load shedding in Inustrail area no one in their right mind will invest till these issues are resolved quickly. We as ex patriates can act as a bridge to helping in developing country's infrastructure so Pakistan can compete economically in the world. The amount of goods shipping needed for NATO should be a good enough economical reason to light the fire underneath the project engineers as well as construction mangement company by NHA to get them to propose expedited schedule to complete the projects. I cannot believe that another 5 years will be needed to complete the projects. NHA should look at legal options to enforce the contracts. May be use design build contractors to complete the projects on time and impose hefty fines for each day of dely in the project and reward for each day of early completion of the project. As far as the excuse of law and order situation someone at NHA really needs to implement security review to provide no excuse to not complete the projects on time. If these projects would have been delayed for so long in USA the contractor, consultant and people incharge would have been replaced by now because pripority is economical growth and how important these project are viewed by the agencies involved for the country. Pakistan cannot achieve its economical potetial unless someone who has vision for grand scheme of things is put incharge. Pakistan has such huge educated smart people we need to figure out how we utilize this potential to make pakistan an economical giant. We hear India is building this dam and this roadway and everyone should know why because for India's survival in this world will be if you become an economic giant not but creating problems for country to even struggle to provide basic needs for the citizens of the country. |
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Iran, Pakistan to ink gas deal in Turkey
Sun, 07 Feb 2010 11:25:46 GMT
The Pakistani Federal Minister for Petroleum has declared that Pakistan and Iran will sign a deal in Turkey before February 15 to construct a gas pipeline between the two countries.
Naveed Qamar said that the construction of the pipeline will take between four and five years. He noted that the natural gas shortage is damaging Pakistan's economy and Islamabad is determined to start the import of natural gas from Iran as soon as possible, Daily Times reported. The Pakistani minister's remarks come as the US special envoy to Afghanistan and Pakistan Richard Holbrooke urged Islamabad last month to avoid the deal with Iran. Holbrooke had said that the US would help Pakistan secure liquefied natural gas supplies should it abandon the planned gas deal with Iran. MGH/MB http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=118102§ionid=351020103 |
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Zardari books fast train to TurkeyBy Syed Fazl-e-Haider of bilateral trade between the two countries to $2 billion from the existing $741 million in a couple of years. Analysts believe that the 6,566 kilometer rail project from Islamabad to Istanbul, with 1,990km of track in Pakistan, 2,570km in Iran and 2,006km in Turkey, will open new avenues of bilateral cooperation as well as strengthening trade and economic ties. http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/LA29Df05.html |
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06 February 2010 Iranian foreign minister claimed that Tehran was ready to start the "peace pipeline" project anytime. All the details between Pakistan and Iran in this regard had already been finalized. India still needed some time but "we can even start the project without India," Mottaki noted. © Tehran Times 2010 http://www.zawya.com/oilgas/default.cfm?cc |
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Corruption in purchase of Gwadar navigation channel buoys alleged ISLAMABAD (February 05 2010): Transparency International Pakistan (TIP) has received a complaint wherein Gwadar Port Authority (GPA) has been accused of corruption in the award of purchase of navigation channel buoys and in the award of dredging contract for maintenance of navigation channel.
Copies of the complaint have also been sent to PAC, Federal Secretary Ministry of Ports and Shipping, Managing Director PPRA and Auditor General. The complaint notes that GPA has ordered installation of 17 new channel buoys at an exorbitant cost of Rs 67 million. The cost of each buoy comes to Rs 3.94 million as against the market price of Rs 1.65m (inclusive of solar fight). However, there is no need to replace the channel buoys since the technical life of the buoys is 16 years, and the current buoys were placed in the Gwadar port channel in 2007. Thus the buoys are due for replacement not before 2022. This can be confirmed from the fact that Karachi Port Trust (KPT) replaces the buoys every 15 years. In addition the Chinese contractor had supplied 6 buoys as spares, which are lying unused. GPA has contracted a local dredging company to do maintenance dredging of the Gwadar port channel with conditions that are against the interest of GPA. One of the terms of the contract is that payment is to be made on the basis of minimum 1 million cubic meters (CBM) of dredging an amount that is arbitrarily fixed without determining the station pattern in the Gwadar harbour. GPA has assigned a minimum quantity so that the dredging company maybe enabled to over bill GPA. GPA has been negligent in conducting the pre and post monsoon surveys in the last 3 years, which could have determined this pattern. Also before issuing the tender no survey was done to establish a base-line for comparison with any earlier survey to determine the quantity of sedimentation. GPA has not relied on any historical data or statistics to confirm and support its assumption of the 1 million CBM quantities. In this regard, it is pertinent to compare GPA assessed quantities with the sedimentation rates at KPT. In the Karachi harbour the annual average sedimentation is less than 20 centimetre (cms) and that too in patches, while the total average maintenance dredging quantity is not more than 1 million CBM. The first important point to note is that the KPT inner and outer harbour's channels' total length is approximately 15 kms as compared to GPA's 4.5 kms. Secondly, the sedimentation rates in KPT are much higher due to its location in the Liyari river estuary and also because of the effect of the south west monsoon during which heavy sedimentation is deposited in the entrance channel off Manora. In comparison Gwadar does not receive sediments from any creek system as in Karachi port, nor is it affected by the monsoon in a similar manner as it is near the Straits of Hormuz also it is located in inside a bay where the tidal current pattern are such that the sediments are naturally carried out of the harbour approach channel based upon above it can be estimated that the Gwadar port dredging quantities cannot be more than 10 percent of Karachi's, ie approximately 100,000 CBM and not 1,000,000 CSM. Corruption may be as high as Rs 297 million in the award of the dredging contract. |
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Funds paucity delays Balochistan road projects
ISLAMABAD – Owing to paucity of funds and adverse law and order situation in Balochistan, most of the National Highway Authority (NHA) projects including roads linking the Gwadar Port with other areas, which are considered crucial for making it a hub for transit trade, are getting delayed.
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PM directs Raisani to expedite work on uplift schemesThe provincial government also thanked the prime minister for his special attention to harnessing the full economic potential of Gwadar Port. It was stated in the meeting that 81 ships had berthed at the port till now and 81,000 trucks carried the cargo upcountry without any incident. The prime minister stressed the need to complete the construction work on the remaining portion of the road connecting the port to all the parts of the country. He also inquired about the feasibilities of drinking water schemes to the port city. Three projects — Shadikor Scheme, Sunsar Scheme and Swarzai Scheme — for provision of water to Gwadar were discussed in the meeting. Chief Minister Balochistan Nawab Aslam Raisani, while thanking the prime minister for his special attention towards addressing the longstanding issues of his province, said that the economic progress of his province after completion of the projects launched under the Aghaz-e-Huqooq-e-Balochistan would go a long way in addressing the sense of deprivation of the people of Balochistan. for full story plz visit the news web site |
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I am glad Mr. Assad is providing updated information about projects. I would like to know how as overseas pakistani who are eager to see Baluchistan and pakistan excel in such an excellent location. How can we help to move things quickly. I would like to invest for industry but would like to see basic amenitiesi n the industrial area. Gwadar is like a gold mine in need of full attention from planners and the government. |
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The authorities are now looking into the option of transporting goods for Nato forces in Afghanistan via Gwadar Port, a relatively much secure route. A meeting is likely to take place next month to discuss the issue. the news |
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ECNEC approves Rs. 7,675 million for constructing Gwadar Airport
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Pak, Iran to expedite 1000MW projectPublished: January 29, 2010 Ambassador of Iran to Pakistan Masha’allah Shakeri and Minister for Water and Power Raja Pervez Ashraf Thursday agreed to expedite the process of importing 1000 MW power from Iran to Pakistan on fast track basis. the nation |
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Oil spillage keeps Pak ports at OPRC level ABy: Waqar Hamza | Published: January 29, 2010 KARACHI - All three ports of Pakistan including Karachi Port, Port Qasim and Gwadar Port are still at level A of Oil Pollution Response Casualty (OPRC) Convention 1990, and have not yet attained level B owing to the nonchalant attitude of the Ministry of Ports and Shipping, The Nation has learnt. the nation.com |
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Gwadar Port waits for shipsVessels avoid anchoring at Gwadar as there is nothing to lift from this port after unloading cargo Sunday, January 31, 2010 KARACHI: The developers of Gwadar Port had perceived it to be the future of Pakistan’s economy. Gwadar is yet to shine despite all the potential of becoming a major port in the region. The strategically important port helplessly waits for cargo ships while government seems indifferent even after inheriting the gift of Makran Coastal Highway from Musharraf government that links Karachi to Gwadar. Local people say that Gwadar has seen a positive socio-economic change after the construction of coastal highway that has reduced three days journey to eight hours for reaching Karachi, the commercial hub of the country. Access to the big city has brought numerous bounties to the people of Gwadar district. Gwadar Port was made with an investment of Rs17.2 billion ($288 million) with Chinese assistance of more than $220 million and over $66 million from Pakistan. Present government is still indecisive as to how to plan and exploit the immense potential of this port. Ghulam Farooq, Director General, Gwadar Port Authority (GPA) said Gwadar Port will not be fully operational unless and until industrialisation takes place in Gwadar district. “Cargo ships want to return with some cargo. Why will a cargo ship come to Gwadar Port when it has nothing to take back?” he said while talking to media persons at a local hotel in Gwadar. Abdul Razik Durrani, DG operations of GPA said the port was increasing its capacity to turn into a hub port with all the facilities. “For instance here we have service berth that we do not have even at Karachi Port and Port Qasim, a RORO facility, which is used in importing vehicles and other machinery, fire fighting equipment, oil pollution equipment with an oil tank of 50,000 gallon capacity.” Durrani added that two fish harbours were also under construction - one in Pishugaan and the other in Surbandar. Fish industry is one of the largest industries of Gwadar, he said, “we have cold storage system where fish processing and packing is done while a huge quantity of fish goes to Karachi for export to different countries.” A coastline of 17.5 km is available to Gwadar Port where container terminals would be made. The master plan of Gwadar Port has LPG and LNG terminals that will be given to private companies on build, operate and transfer (BOT) basis, he said. The first ship offloaded 63,000 MT of wheat at Gwadar Port in March 2008 and from then only Trading Corporation of Pakistan (TCP) has imported commodities through Gwadar Port showing the extent of limited ships. He said TCP decision of importing commodities from Gwadar instead of Karachi Port was right because the cost was same at both ports. Calculations reveal that the imports through Gwadar were not expensive if compared to Karachi Port and Port Qasim, for demurrages and other charges owing to heavy sea traffic at Karachi levels the cost of imports, he added. When asked why two ships have ran aground at Gwadar Port, he replied, international laws say that any damage in case of incident to the ship is the responsibility of captain whether it touches jetty or runs aground. The Port of Singapore Authority (PSA) the operator of Gwadar Port handles millions of containers around the world making it easier for them to develop this port according to the schedule plan, Durrani said. PSA has much more important role to play than just the port operations, for instance bringing business, setting up container terminal, making it a proper and viable port is the responsibility of PSA, he said. With the import of TCP commodities various employment opportunities emerged like truck drivers and other lifters that increase the hopes of local people that they will get more employment as the port operations grow. “With the increase in port operations, local people will get more employment and their grievances will certainly start decreasing,” he said. “Private businessmen at Gwadar Port will certainly employ local people. Why would they bring labour for Rs500 per day when the local labour is available for Rs200 a day? How they can prefer to bring costly labour from Karachi or Quetta when they get trained local people in Gwadar? He asked and rebuffs the reservations of local people who think that they will be marginalized in employment opportunities. Obviously, local people have the right and we would ensure that local people get training on priority basis, he added. On the availability of water and electricity in Gwadar, he said electricity load shedding in Gwadar was same as we see in other parts of country while Gwadar Development Authority (GDA) was looking for desalination plant and electricity generation on its own.
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I am happy to see the post by Mr. Assad but how long this is going to take to build and what quality of construction wouyld it be. Well see. Also can anyone give me update whay Gov is taking so long to provide water abd build desalination plant for water? Who can we get in touch with to discuss sorry state of pace for development. |
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Sajjid sahib, I have also invested heavily in Gwadar many years back. But unfortunately seems like things are not moving as we like them to. present govt. is trying its best to loot as much money as possible to from the people of pakistan and acquire heavy loans in the name of pakistan. the balouchs leaders who are in power these days are those balauch sardars who never wanted any developments to beging with. they wanted to abuse ordinary people. |
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I bought 3 1 acre lots in Gwadar Industrial area. Tried several times to get information through local newspapers as to what is happening at Gwadar. What is the status of Desalination plant to supply water so when I submit feaibility study to banks for loans I can convince them that there won't be any problems related to water. I am amazed how there is no local e news paper which is up to date. I would like to invest and build in the industrial area but without ample water and electricity how do GDA expect the investors to invest in Gwadar. I do not still understand if Balochistan wants to gow they should be everthing in their power to provide the basic amenities. |
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